Sony future predictions PS5 and onward

#1
So here is some room for some speculation and of course predictions can be laid bare and immortalized as bragging rights. However I am not an employee of Sony, I have no actual clue what they are going to do. Clearly if I was working at Sony I would have created a press release about how I got the dumbshit fired who decided the PS VR didn't need HDR pass through even though EVERY PS4 has HDR as an example of why I don't work at Sony lol.

So here are some of my predictions. I think PSX 2017 they will make some form of hint if not announcement of the PS5. If it is a hint I think I think we're looking at an early 2019 to mid 2019 launch. If it's an announcement I think we're looking at a mid 2018 to late 2018 launch.

If it launches during 2018 I believe it will be 10-30% more powerful than the Xbox One X using 10nm chipsets. If it launches 2019 I believe it will be 40-60% more powerful than the Xbox One X and using 7nm chipsets. These predictions are due to the jump in power from the 12 nm chips the Xbox One X has to the 10 and 7nm chipsets that are currently in development from AMD, as well as some tweaks for better performance like the Xbox One X has.

I don't think Sony will announce the PS Vita successor and I don't know what they would call it if they did. Maybe Playstation Anywhere? Playstation Life? PS4 Portable? I don't think they are working on a Tablet competitor to the Switch mostly because of the size of games and the push for 4k and HDR Sony is doing. If Sony does a Tablet PS4 well so many games are 30-100GB memory would fill up insanely fast.

I think Sony will announce that the PS5 is fully backwards compatible with the PS4 games. If not I will probably swap over to PC gaming primarily. Not going to be rebuying everything I have on the PS4 to the PS5, and if I can't play PS4 games with boost mode on the PS5 especially VR than Sony really wasted my money and time.

Price for a PS5 will be $400, and I don't think they'll announce or release it until they get the price point to $400 because the $399 price point is such a sweet spot in their eyes, and it puts pressure on Microsoft who will be underpowered and $100 more.

The PS4 slim will get sunset as its price drops to $150-$200 range, the PS4 Pro's price will drop to the $250-$300 range, and PS4 Pro exclusives that don't run on the original model might be allowed at that point 2 years from now in the same way that New 3DS games are starting to become more normalized over with Nintendo.

That is the full range of my predictions. Maybe some people will see me as a cheater because of the ranges kinda cover 2 years, and 10%-80% more powerful, but my predictions are based on chipsets and until I see Sony place a massive order for chipsets there's nothing I can exactly figure out more definitively.

I need to keep an eye on AMD stock reportings I guess to be more accurate, but right now it's too hard with Microsoft doing their One X thing. I also think there is a slight chance that Sony might not do a 5 and might do a PS4K instead. This is pure speculation. Maybe a 15% chance.
 

BigPete7978

The Bearded One
Staff member
#2
So here is some room for some speculation and of course predictions can be laid bare and immortalized as bragging rights. However I am not an employee of Sony, I have no actual clue what they are going to do. Clearly if I was working at Sony I would have created a press release about how I got the dumbshit fired who decided the PS VR didn't need HDR pass through even though EVERY PS4 has HDR as an example of why I don't work at Sony lol.

So here are some of my predictions. I think PSX 2017 they will make some form of hint if not announcement of the PS5. If it is a hint I think I think we're looking at an early 2019 to mid 2019 launch. If it's an announcement I think we're looking at a mid 2018 to late 2018 launch.

If it launches during 2018 I believe it will be 10-30% more powerful than the Xbox One X using 10nm chipsets. If it launches 2019 I believe it will be 40-60% more powerful than the Xbox One X and using 7nm chipsets. These predictions are due to the jump in power from the 12 nm chips the Xbox One X has to the 10 and 7nm chipsets that are currently in development from AMD, as well as some tweaks for better performance like the Xbox One X has.

I don't think Sony will announce the PS Vita successor and I don't know what they would call it if they did. Maybe Playstation Anywhere? Playstation Life? PS4 Portable? I don't think they are working on a Tablet competitor to the Switch mostly because of the size of games and the push for 4k and HDR Sony is doing. If Sony does a Tablet PS4 well so many games are 30-100GB memory would fill up insanely fast.

I think Sony will announce that the PS5 is fully backwards compatible with the PS4 games. If not I will probably swap over to PC gaming primarily. Not going to be rebuying everything I have on the PS4 to the PS5, and if I can't play PS4 games with boost mode on the PS5 especially VR than Sony really wasted my money and time.

Price for a PS5 will be $400, and I don't think they'll announce or release it until they get the price point to $400 because the $399 price point is such a sweet spot in their eyes, and it puts pressure on Microsoft who will be underpowered and $100 more.

The PS4 slim will get sunset as its price drops to $150-$200 range, the PS4 Pro's price will drop to the $250-$300 range, and PS4 Pro exclusives that don't run on the original model might be allowed at that point 2 years from now in the same way that New 3DS games are starting to become more normalized over with Nintendo.

That is the full range of my predictions. Maybe some people will see me as a cheater because of the ranges kinda cover 2 years, and 10%-80% more powerful, but my predictions are based on chipsets and until I see Sony place a massive order for chipsets there's nothing I can exactly figure out more definitively.

I need to keep an eye on AMD stock reportings I guess to be more accurate, but right now it's too hard with Microsoft doing their One X thing. I also think there is a slight chance that Sony might not do a 5 and might do a PS4K instead. This is pure speculation. Maybe a 15% chance.
Honestly I think I see them releasing the PS5 probably around 2020, but that’s just my opinion. PS Vita is pretty much done here though. Great handheld that I really liked, but it just didn’t sell. They say it did quite well in Japan though, with several special editions and colors available to choose from.
 
#3
I just don't see Sony letting there be a 3 year gap between the Xbox One X and the PS5. The PS1 came out, 6 years later the PS2 came out, 6 years later the PS3 came out, 7 years later the PS4 came out in 2013. So 2019 is the likely candidate and the PS3-4 gap was a fluke, but if 7 years is the new span then yeah looking at 2020.

I personally don't think Sony can afford to have no 4k Blu-Ray console for 3 years, and releasing a Pro + 4k unit just doesn't seem right. So many factors.
 

BigPete7978

The Bearded One
Staff member
#4
I just don't see Sony letting there be a 3 year gap between the Xbox One X and the PS5. The PS1 came out, 6 years later the PS2 came out, 6 years later the PS3 came out, 7 years later the PS4 came out in 2013. So 2019 is the likely candidate and the PS3-4 gap was a fluke, but if 7 years is the new span then yeah looking at 2020.

I personally don't think Sony can afford to have no 4k Blu-Ray console for 3 years, and releasing a Pro + 4k unit just doesn't seem right. So many factors.
If they released a Pro 4K unit I think that would be a very bad move IMO.
 
#7
I don’t get why they didn’t include it in the Pro tbh. Idk what they will do. Maybe they’ll do an external add on like Microsoft did with HD DVD lmao. That thing was terrible.
They didn't add it because it was more money than they felt it was worth. The PS4's primary operandi was gaming first. Sony credits that with why they trounced the One as well as the Wii U.

The standards were not exactly set in place. At launch the One S was a terrible UHD player. It didn't support Dolby Atmos, it didn't support Dolby Vision. LG was working on their own HDR thing, and they would have had to pay money for the UHD player, as well as licensing fees for all the PS4 pros. Not buying a PS4 pro because it didn't support UHD blurays was a retarded position.

"Oh I want to buy all the movies I bought for $5, for $30 instead because I spent $500-3,000 on a brand new t.v."

Who says that kind of idiotic crap? Versus spending $120 dollars to stream way more 4k HDR content online. You can get an Xbox One S for $200 with a game or a giftcard, you can spend $500 on an Xbox One X, or you can just get a UHD blu-ray player for $150.

Now that prices are coming down, now that standards have been set up, now that there are more people with HDR t.v.s who can actually enjoy UHD blu-rays rather than just get a minor boost in resolution that has little impact on the movie itself.... Now it actually makes sense to have a UHD player inside a console.

It didn't when Microsoft did it, that's why for over 6 months a lot of movies didn't even work on it. I supported Sony's decision and I would support a PS4 Pro +4k UHD and if people get upset because they already bought a 4k t.v. and blu-ray player, well sorry it was obvious this was going to happen, maybe you shouldn't spend so much money early adopting thousands of dollars worth of stuff, that you know, you're going to just upgrade in a couple years anyway because you jumped the gun too fast.
 

BigPete7978

The Bearded One
Staff member
#8
They didn't add it because it was more money than they felt it was worth. The PS4's primary operandi was gaming first. Sony credits that with why they trounced the One as well as the Wii U.

The standards were not exactly set in place. At launch the One S was a terrible UHD player. It didn't support Dolby Atmos, it didn't support Dolby Vision. LG was working on their own HDR thing, and they would have had to pay money for the UHD player, as well as licensing fees for all the PS4 pros. Not buying a PS4 pro because it didn't support UHD blurays was a retarded position.

"Oh I want to buy all the movies I bought for $5, for $30 instead because I spent $500-3,000 on a brand new t.v."

Who says that kind of idiotic crap? Versus spending $120 dollars to stream way more 4k HDR content online. You can get an Xbox One S for $200 with a game or a giftcard, you can spend $500 on an Xbox One X, or you can just get a UHD blu-ray player for $150.

Now that prices are coming down, now that standards have been set up, now that there are more people with HDR t.v.s who can actually enjoy UHD blu-rays rather than just get a minor boost in resolution that has little impact on the movie itself.... Now it actually makes sense to have a UHD player inside a console.

It didn't when Microsoft did it, that's why for over 6 months a lot of movies didn't even work on it. I supported Sony's decision and I would support a PS4 Pro +4k UHD and if people get upset because they already bought a 4k t.v. and blu-ray player, well sorry it was obvious this was going to happen, maybe you shouldn't spend so much money early adopting thousands of dollars worth of stuff, that you know, you're going to just upgrade in a couple years anyway because you jumped the gun too fast.
But what about when the PS3 was $600 and it had a Blu Ray player. And the movies were expensive then as well. New technology costs money. I typically get things at launch because I like it. It’s why I work. Also the discs look a hell of a lot better than streaming. Regardless of internet speed imo. Same with Blu Ray discs over digital. Do I still buy digital? Absolutely. Don’t like dealing with all the physical copies of things.
 
#9
Sony as a company had a HUGE sum of money to win personally for winning against HD DVD. UHD is an adaptation of Blu-Ray. Sony started that console generation with a 6-7 million console disadvantage, and every year they closed the gap half a million to a million at a time, until they put the 360 square in last place.

Sony is winning by a 2:1 margin and they feel that the reason they are winning is because Microsoft is focusing too much on being a home theatre and Sony is focusing all their attention on gaming. When asked about their lead a Sony representative said it's because they focused on games first.

There just isn't incentive to get ahead on this because it's not a new console generation, they have an INSURMOUNTABLE lead, and they want to make a small margin on every console sold while keeping under $399.99 and they focus all their attention on not being in the $400 price range without a game bundled in because they feel that anything more than $400 for a stand alone console puts it out of the "impulse buy" category, and the Xbox One has made most of its gains by slashing prices insanely. I mean a PS4 is like $199, the One S is like $179 for Black Friday.

That's why I think they'll announce something at PSX this year and put out something next year, or early 2019. A full year and maybe a half sooner than you think.
 
#10
It has been said from Stewart Gilray of Just Add Water that if the PS4 pro came out this year it would have been right around the same level of power of the One X. Tech is advancing so quickly thanks to Finfett, and new memory techniques that a year produces a large jump.